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10
Apr

Is mission the mother of theology?

Andrew Jones (Tall Skinny Kiwi) is asking a question today:Is mission the mother of theology?

Missiology or Theology? Chicken or the egg? Is missiology a slice of the theolgical cake or a foundational layer? And what about the sequence that goes missiology-christology-ecclesiology? Or as Alan Hirsch has laid it out, Christology-Missiology-Ecclesiology. How would you sequence it?

This is something that is worth the time to think about, and there is some good conversation going on in the comments of the Andrews post.

Here’s my initial reaction:

Mission and theology are dangerous starting places. If we start with mission, we will become quick fodder for substituting church growth for success and/or social justice for holiness. If we start with theology… well then we become entangled with all sorts of doctrine and dogma that makes no since in every day life and gives no hope or meaning to this life.

I’m in total agreement with Alan Hirsch that we need to start with Christology. However, I believe that instead of a linear progression from missionalogy to Ecclesiology, or even to theology, we need to see that Christology leads to Christology.

Let me explain it this way: picture a globe with lines of longitude on it. each of these meridians touch both the north and south polls. So, in the same way, missionology, theology, ecclesiology, eschotology, etc… all come from Christology and lead us to Christology. I know the anology breaks down becasue missiology, theology, and the rest do intersect and lead us one to another. However, without Christology as the starting place and the goal, these things just have no point.

Mission leads us to the words Jesus vested in his followers: “As I have been sent, so I send you”. Mission also leads us to the finished work of salvation in the death and resurrection.

Theology has no other starting place than Jesus, because he is the fullness of the invisible God. And the more we come to think well about God the more we are going to be shown the Lamb on the throne.

Ecclesiology can not actually exist without the understand that we are the Body of Christ. Then again, if the Church does anything other than show the face and love of Jesus to the world it misses the point of its existence.

Eschatology becomes nothing more than fortune telling if we don’t understand the words of the prophets are fulfilled in Christ. And what hope does the day of the Lord bring if it is not the revelation of Jesus who is our salvation and gives us grace?

As others have said in TSK’s comment thread, it’s much more holistic and circular than “1 leads to 2 leads to 3″.

To my initial reaction I will add…

I do believe it is important to think about the relationships between mission, theology, ecclesiology, and the rest. We do need to intentionally build one on another in a healthy fashion… a fashion that starts in Christ and leads to Him again and again. To that end, I submit this path from one poll to the other:

Christology> Pneumology> Missiology> Ecclesiology> Eschatology> Theology> Christology

(I know there are other “ology”‘s, but I think these six pretty well cover the majors.)

Let me explain my “path” a bit:

  • We see Jesus, and he talks about the Spirit, our mission, our hope, our identity, and the nature of god that is revealed in all of these.
  • The Spirit empowers us to understand the words of Jesus (and the scriptures that speak about Him) and to rightly do the mission He has set entrusted us with.
  • The mission knits us together as a people with an identity, and shapes how we live as the People of God.
  • Being the people of God is being a people of hope. The hope that we seek to give shape to in our identity as the people of God is ultimately focused on the Shalom that Jesus is coming to re-establish.
  • Understanding that the “end times” are really the beginning of life as God originally intended it should force us to want to understand this God who has revealed himself through the incarnation… which leads us back to Christ.

So, that’s what I think about that. Any thoughts?

9
Apr

From a rambleing email I just sent…

I just don’t get Americian church any more. We have 40 minuets of cover songs the band rocks out to followed by 40 minuets of seminar type talk telling us how good our life can be if we just follow the formula of scripture.

Where is Jesus in all this?

About two years ago, I started asking the question “what is gospel?”. Ever since then, my beliefs and faith have been turned inside out and right side up. I see the Bible telling me, telling us that the only good news is Jesus. Not doctrine, not morality, not even sanctification. Its Jesus.

So, this earthshaking revelation leads me to rethink the nature of salvation. Blair was asking these same questions, and both of us landed head first on a truth that evangelicals don’t talk about: the hope of salvation. 1 Peter tells us to place all our hope on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Did you catch that: the grace that Jesus is going to bring us when he comes again!

Ok, so church never talked about this. I am now believing that Jesus gives me hope because he has reconciled Himself to me, and is teaching me to learn to unlearn my sin habits and learn to love Him with all that I got and other people as I invite them to become part of the people of God.

Church has lost its meaning to me, but the community of God, the people that are pinning all of their hope on Christ as they try and tell people of the hope they have (that He’s coming to set it all right) both by words but mostly by their lives that are broken and marred but full to over flowing with resurrection life that spills out to the other addicts we learn to love.

That is the vision I have of the people of God. Screw church, I want to be part of that holy rabble.

And it’s all because Jesus is offering, to all who will come, to put us into right relationship with the holy trinity so that we can receive the fullness of Yahweh’s favor (grace) when he breaks through with the realness of His reality and Shalom.

That’s where my thoughts have been circling lately, even as I find sin habits in my life so hard to break. In honesty, I probably wouldn’t be allowed to preach in any churches because of things that are not clean and spotless in my life. That and I like to swear… it’s just so satisfying. So, I’m not ok for church… but I am ok for Jesus to give hope to… hope that someday I won’t lose these battles any more… someday I will bow at his feet and be clean, wholly clean, holy clean…

Still, I feel the condemnation from church, even though I haven’t been part of one for months. I don’t know, maybe its all in my head. But I still don’t desire a church. I desire a community. And they are out there. Allot of people our age, older and younger are getting this idea and community’s of faith are springing up. There is one up in Portland that I am looking forward to being a part of. These are the kind of people that care about missions as part of their proclamation of the hope of salvation. And they themselves are the missionaries that are being sent by God. I like that. It feels allot more Biblical than sending people to other heathen lands.

Anyways, I have allot to say about this stuff. It’s why I started blogging. I need to get back in the rhythm of doing that…

Ill let you go before I just cant stop this word vomit.

8
Apr

The Dead Will Live

…Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, the son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all that he himself is doing. And greater works than these will he show him, so that you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will…

Truly, truly I say to you, an hour is coming and is now here when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.

For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.

Taken from John 5.19-29 (ESV)